Dehydrated food suppliers??

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Re: Dehydrated food suppliers??

Postby sudden » Wed Feb 23, 2011 3:23 pm

ConnieD wrote:After a few years, I got jaded on Mountain House #10 cans. I still purchase shortening or fd raspberries I use in recipes I prepackage at home.

Now, my food pages at my website show my preferences:
http://www.ultralightbackpackingonline.info/specializedfood1.html
http://www.ultralightbackpackingonline.info/morevideo2.html
http://www.ultralightbackpackingonline.info/video1.html
http://www.ultralightbackpackingonline.info/morevideo2.html
and backpacking food suggestions from the grocery store:
http://www.ultralightbackpackingonline.info/photos2a.html

Here is the Site Map, if you want to look around more.
http://www.ultralightbackpackingonline.info/sitemap1.html

My website is strictly a "FYI" website.

There are also methods for dehydrating your own home-cooked meal: make extra, cut it up small, and dehydrate.
I haven't done that.

I can't see the button to click to get the samples at efoodsdirect. I have an ad blocker. Maybe it is preventing it?
Maybe they have pulled the offer?


Thanks for the links again connied. I have your website bookmarked on my other computer but not this one. Now I do :).

I have an adblocker too and had to temporarily allow the site to get the free clicker to work. It's at the bottom of the page. My page scanner didn't catch anything wrong with the site but it's always good to be careful. The only thing I hope I don't get is a bunch of spam from them if I decide not to purchase (yahoo mail has a good spam button for that).

Also found another site that claims to have good products (thrive food??). They don't offer any free trial but the idea seems the same as the other site.

I think I got caught up in the shelf life claims. I liked the idea that some of this stuff has a shelf life of years. I don't think they use any odd chemicals either (I get to add those myself I guess :) ). I found another video showing how to store dried foods for longer periods of time. All they did was put their stuff in a bucket and sit a piece of dry ice on top of it. When the fog from the dry ice started to fall out of the bucket, they put the lid on tight. That might work really nice for repacking things from bulk. You could make a big batch and then put all the ziplocs into a bucket, and dry ice them.

I'm looking for easy and good. I still want the hiking experience but can't do the miles anymore. Some of these items claim to be a complete entree, others are simply used in place of fresh supplies and therefore should work well for hiking. I like the just add water idea. I know I'm being lazy and could put these together myself. For the few times I get out it might be more cost effective to buy it already packed for me rather than invest the time in shopping/dehydrating/vacuum sealing/ and electricity.

So far, it seems like the time involved in cooking is similar to the freezer bag method if we are talking about store bought supplies and not the pre-cooked burgers that only need re-heated. I don't have enough experience to back that up though. Zelph ordered some so it will be interesting to know what he thinks about value and ease of use.

Now I'm off to re-read your website again :mrgreen:
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Re: Dehydrated food suppliers??

Postby ConnieD » Wed Feb 23, 2011 4:07 pm

Vegan Store
http://www.veganstore.com/meat-alternatives.html
http://www.veganstore.com/thanksgiving-and-holiday.html
has wheat gluten meat substitutes.

I find the taste and texture are quite good.

If vacuum-packed avoiding high ambient temperatures, the "shelf life" is supposed to be about 45-days.

I find wheat-gluten meat substitute "beef strips" and "chicken strips" at Trader Joes grocery store. I have seen them at Safeway.

I have added them as my shelf-stable "meat substitute" to stir-fry fresh vegetables at home, the taste and texture is that good.

There is a famous vegetarian chinese restaurant, in San Francisco, CA, that has wheat gluten "duck" and "roast pork".

This wheat gluten product is also called "Fu" (Yaki-Fu, 焼き麩) the starch is washed away from wheat flour.

If you see it in the store, if it isn't vacuum packed, vacuum pack it at home.

I don't have a dehydrator, but I would like to try dehydrating meat.

I have packed frozen steaks.

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Re: Dehydrated food suppliers??

Postby ConnieD » Wed Feb 23, 2011 4:13 pm

Nitrogen packed dried food or freeze-dried food lasts 5-10 years, I have read.

http://www.nitro-pak.com/products/freez ... d-pouches/

Not everything they sell is nitrogen packed.

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Re: Dehydrated food suppliers??

Postby zelph » Wed Feb 23, 2011 4:37 pm

ConnieD wrote:There is a lot of vegetarian food that packs well. There is one vegetarian items that imitates meat, well, in my opinion. It is wheat based. It also packs well. I list it, at my website.

There is no advertising, or sales, there.

It is "safe" to take a look. :)


The product extracted from whole wheat flour is "gluten" It can easily be extracted at home and processed fresh into meat loaf as an "extender" It can be seasoned into a faux "Jerky" I've done it a couple of times. It was a fun project, did it many years ago.
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Re: Dehydrated food suppliers??

Postby ConnieD » Wed Feb 23, 2011 4:43 pm

Did you add the flavoring spices during the separation wash?

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Re: Dehydrated food suppliers??

Postby zelph » Wed Feb 23, 2011 4:59 pm

ConnieD wrote:Did you add the flavoring spices during the separation wash?


It was added later by using a kneading motion. I used ham flavoring also which tasted good.

I made tempeh also as a fun project. it was interesting to grow the mycylium onto the batch under controlled temperatures inside of a styrofoam cooler. That was good tasting stuff. That was many years ago.
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Re: Dehydrated food suppliers??

Postby ConnieD » Wed Feb 23, 2011 5:26 pm

I have had tempeh "burgers" that are very good.

I didn't know you could successfully, and safely, make it at home.

I should say, I am not a vegetarian. I have done it. I love at least three vegetables in a meal.

I also prefer grain dishes, with vegetables in a sauce.

I especially like "shelf stable" tasty meals, for backpacking.

However, even a vegetarian expert monk told me I need "wild meat". I had eaten grilled elk steak and grilled venison heart, from elk and deer "harvested" in the mountains my nephew had prepared. The monk was impressed, and, he consults people about their vegetarianism.

I have had venison sausage travel reasonably well: jerky is too tough.

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Re: Dehydrated food suppliers??

Postby ConnieD » Wed Feb 23, 2011 5:49 pm

I finally got to see the website: $14.95 to ship?

I get Bear Creek dried potato soup, tortilla soup, and minestrone soup "on sale" at the grocery store.

I have found Alessi dried Tuscan white bean soup and Neapolitan bean soup, at Safeway.

I purchase freeze-dried asparagus pieces, okra pieces, or cabbage pieces, for example, to add to these store-bought dried soup.

I think some Wilderness Dining, Packit Gourmet, Enertia Trail Foods, Cache Lake or Mary Jane's Farm meals can be worth sending for.

Have you had Mountain House Lasagna with Meat Sauce?
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Re: Dehydrated food suppliers??

Postby zelph » Wed Feb 23, 2011 6:18 pm

Have you had Mountain House Lasagna with Meat Sauce?

Yes, I'ts sinfully addictive :lol:

All their meals are worth walking a mile for 8-)
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Re: Dehydrated food suppliers??

Postby sudden » Wed Feb 23, 2011 7:35 pm

ConnieD wrote:I finally got to see the website: $14.95 to ship?

I get Bear Creek dried potato soup, tortilla soup, and minestrone soup "on sale" at the grocery store.

I have found Alessi dried Tuscan white bean soup and Neapolitan bean soup, at Safeway.

I purchase freeze-dried asparagus pieces, okra pieces, or cabbage pieces, for example, to add to these store-bought dried soup.

I think some Wilderness Dining, Packit Gourmet, Enertia Trail Foods, Cache Lake or Mary Jane's Farm meals can be worth sending for.

Have you had Mountain House Lasagna with Meat Sauce?


Loved the MH Lasagna. Did not like any of the oriental style meals. Also liked plain old hamburger and potatos. The blueberry granola was fantastic.

Thanks for all the alternatives ConnieD.

I think the 14.95 is high for shipping but don't mind getting 6 meals to try for that price. That still puts it under $3 per item.
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