SS Starlyte Stove

Give results of stoves tested. At least three test burns made in succession using 1/2 ounce of denatured alcohol and 2 cups of water. Give any and all additional conditions that exist during testing.

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Re: SS Starlyte Stove

Post by Skidsteer » Thu Jun 19, 2008 8:09 pm

Definitely a Heineken pot makes the boil slower. My Starlyte gets consistent 2 cup 15 ml boils with nearly any pot but a Heinie pot. Heinie pot? Maybe 50% of the time.

What blows me away about RR's tests is the twenty minute boil/burn times in the first two tests. What's up with that? That's just weird regardless of fuel or water temp!

Sure you didn't inadvertently get your SS Starlyte wet, Ridgerunner? Maybe leave it under a pot of water overnight after a test?
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Re: SS Starlyte Stove

Post by Ridgerunner » Fri Jun 20, 2008 8:50 am

Do me a flavor, put the ss StarLyte next to a piece of ss globe material to give me a visual of the meshes next to each other for threads per inch comparison.
The globe mesh looks to be the same size weave as the SS Starlyte screen.

Skids, even IF I had let it sit one top of burner over night after a previous test,(which i don't thik I did but have done before) would the water not have evaporated out after the first test burn ? Maybe I got a lemon or Zelph is pulling my leg and put the secret wicking material in sideways to slow down the flow of fuel to the surface. :lol: :lol:
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Re: SS Starlyte Stove

Post by zelph » Fri Jun 20, 2008 10:56 am

Ridgerunner wrote:
Do me a flavor, put the ss StarLyte next to a piece of ss globe material to give me a visual of the meshes next to each other for threads per inch comparison.
The globe mesh looks to be the same size weave as the SS Starlyte screen.

Skids, even IF I had let it sit one top of burner over night after a previous test,(which i don't thik I did but have done before) would the water not have evaporated out after the first test burn ? Maybe I got a lemon or Zelph is pulling my leg and put the secret wicking material in sideways to slow down the flow of fuel to the surface. :lol: :lol:
I would'nt do a number like that on you :lol:

Try your test with an aluminum pot of the regular type and use 70 degree water. The pot to be 2 - 3 cup size. Look in yur pot box, there should be one close to that. :) Do the test under calm, indoor conditions. ;) Preferably under fair weather conditions. Remember what I said about low barometric pressure and humidity. ;) Lots of variables to be a stovie ;)


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Re: SS Starlyte Stove

Post by Tony » Sat Jun 21, 2008 4:06 pm

Preferably under fair weather conditions. Remember what I said about low barometric pressure and humidity. Lots of variables to be a stovie
You are right about barometric pressure and humidity having some effect on stove performance but after years of testing I have found evidence that the phases of the moon, sun spot cycle and the alignment of the planets are the major reasons that stove performance can change from minute to minute.

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Re: SS Starlyte Stove

Post by Skidsteer » Sat Jun 21, 2008 6:20 pm

Tony wrote:
Preferably under fair weather conditions. Remember what I said about low barometric pressure and humidity. Lots of variables to be a stovie
You are right about barometric pressure and humidity having some effect on stove performance but after years of testing I have found evidence that the phases of the moon, sun spot cycle and the alignment of the planets are the major reasons that stove performance can change from minute to minute.

Tony
All those factors plus I find it's important to hold my mouth right as well. A "Michael Jordan" tongue out to the side is the most consistent performance enhancing facial expression.
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Re: SS Starlyte Stove

Post by Ridgerunner » Sat Jun 21, 2008 6:33 pm

All those factors plus I find it's important to hold my mouth right as well. A "Michael Jordan" tongue out to the side is the most consistent performance enhancing facial expression.
Skids, you took the words right out of my mouth. I tell everyone that the reason i never had a son was because I did not hold my mouth just right during the sowing process! :lol: :lol: :(
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Re: SS Starlyte Stove

Post by DarenN » Mon Jun 23, 2008 10:22 pm

i got my S/S Starlyte UL today. tested it against the original and against my watchmakers case burner w/S/S screen top.

"THE" standard conditions were met. potstand hieght was 1.5" to match the S/S/UL. 5" diameter aluminum pot. 17ml Methyl hydrate.

original fiberglass Starlyte:
Boil: just barely
out: 8minutes: 30seconds

S/S Starlyte:
Boil: 8:20
Out: 10:00

S/S watch-case: (this is the slowest burner i have)
boil: 10:45
out: 14:05

the S/S screen is the same thread count between the watch-case and the Starlyte.
the original Starlyte has zero blume time, while the screen tops have a minute or so till full flame.

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Re: SS Starlyte Stove

Post by Ridgerunner » Mon Jun 23, 2008 11:17 pm

"THE" standard conditions were met. potstand hieght was 1.5" to match the S/S/UL.
Maybe that is the problem with mine. I don't think the poststand is 1.5 inched tall. I will have to check it out.
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Re: SS Starlyte Stove

Post by Ridgerunner » Wed Jun 25, 2008 9:04 pm

Try your test with an aluminum pot of the regular type and use 70 degree water. The pot to be 2 - 3 cup size. Look in yur pot box, there should be one close to that. Do the test under calm, indoor conditions. Preferably under fair weather conditions. Remember what I said about low barometric pressure and humidity. Lots of variables to be a stovie
I thought I might try to modify the stove using the bottom of a can to act as a spreader of the flame to avoid the turbulance of the flame that takes place under the Heine pot. It did a great job of spreading the flame and allowing it to burn up the sides of the pot but still no boil.
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Per Zelph's request. I did a test burn using 70 degree water in a 2 cup aluminum pot with the outside temp. about 83 degress.

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WWHOOOA NEELY!!!! I checked the potstand measurements before I left for work today. It seems my pot support only goes 3/4 inch above the surface of the SS Starlyte tin. With the fact that it goes up inside the base of the Heine pot, it is no wonder i was getting long burn times and was coming up short of a boil on some test. I should have noticed that right away. :oops: I will try and jb-weld the pot support in place at a higher level and retest. Is the height of ss starlyte owners pot supports 1 1/2 inches?
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Re: SS Starlyte Stove

Post by DarenN » Wed Jun 25, 2008 9:29 pm

Ridgerunner;
i gotta stop posting anthropometric measurements and just use a tape measure. :?

the actual measurements of my S/S starlyte are: :ugeek:

overall; 1 5/8"
top of the burner to the top of the stand; 7/8"

my original 8:20 boil on 17ml of methyl hydrate still stands after several tests.

that aluminum pot in your testing pics should git-er-done. i don't understand what the problem could be. can you get 99.9% Methyl Hydrate? give it a try. if it doesn't do it, you may have been shipped a reject that slipped by Zelphs quality control team. :o seriously; i can't see that. it just has to be something else.

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