Electroytic rust remove

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Re: Electroytic rust remove

Postby zelph » Sat Aug 23, 2008 7:43 pm

Three cheers for oops!!!!
2 for DarenN :D

I'll have to hang the directions up in my garage so they don't get lost. Use them in the fall when I got some time :lol:
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Re: Electrolytic rust remove

Postby oops56 » Sat Aug 23, 2008 8:33 pm

DarenN wrote:Image

Oops, i gotta say thanks for bringing up this topic. i owe you a beer. :D

a while ago i had a fire in my shop and i had thought i would just have to throw all these rusty tools away. this morning the pliers looked even worse than the side-cutters, and were frozen shut. now they work just fine, and look great. :mrgreen:

for these small pieces i used a ~1quart plastic tobacco can. for the anode i made a coil of rebar tie wire that spirals up the inner wall of the can from bottom to top. the pliers were hung from a 1/4" wooden dowel and another piece of wire was just shoved in under the rubber handle, at the hinge, for the cathode lead. the solution is baking soda (sodium bicarbonate) that was heated in the oven at 300* for an hour (read about this) to turn it into sodium carbonate. the power supply is a 5volt, 120mA battery charger from some long forgotten cordless tool. total time in solution was about three hours, and final cleanup was too simple to mention. just wire brush under running water. sprayed with WD-40 to dry it off and wiped done with 3in1 oil.

i'm going to be able to save a lot of tools with this system.

Daren.........


Way to go now i like Canada beer clipper had some up there many years ago
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Re: Electroytic rust remove

Postby Ridgerunner » Sat Aug 23, 2008 11:51 pm

Excellent work Oops and Daren. I look forward to testing this method out later on as time becomes available. ;) Thanks for sharing and researching your methods. :D
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Re: Electroytic rust remove

Postby dlarson » Sun Aug 24, 2008 3:56 pm

Great info guys! Thanks.

All my reading so far on electrolysis has been in regard to hydrogen production. When making hydrogen, copper is a great conductor but one electrode becomes oxidized and the other shines right up. It also dirties the water and inhibits the electrolysis process as the one electrode oxidizes. The hydrogen community seems to prefer stainless for these reasons.

I assume that when cleaning parts the piece being cleaned would be equal to the electrode that doesn't oxidize. I noticed Oops had a large stainless steel plate in his tub. That's a pretty good idea because it doesn't oxidize as fast, if at all, as plain steel will. Although, to be fair, it doesn't conduct electricity as well either.
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Re: Electroytic rust remove

Postby zelph » Sun Aug 24, 2008 4:01 pm

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Although, to be fair, it doesn't conduct electricity as well either.


I think the large surface area of his plate makes up for the decreased conductivity. My guess ;)

I clicked on code instead of quote and look what happened :roll:
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Re: Electroytic rust remove

Postby DarenN » Sun Aug 24, 2008 4:02 pm

a couple sites i read warned against using stainless steel. something about the chromium in s/s creating toxic byproducts.

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Re: Electroytic rust remove

Postby dlarson » Sun Aug 24, 2008 4:15 pm

Zelph, your right, the large surface area is a good thing. ;)

DarenN wrote:a couple sites i read warned against using stainless steel. something about the chromium in s/s creating toxic byproducts.


Daren, I haven't read that before. I have heard that the addition of electrolytes like baking soda will taint the hydrogen/oxygen gas with CO2 but nothing about byproducts from chromium. I'm going to have see what more I can find out about that. Thanks.
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Re: Electroytic rust remove

Postby DarenN » Sun Aug 24, 2008 4:18 pm

dlarson wrote:Zelph, your right, the large surface area is a good thing. ;)

DarenN wrote:a couple sites i read warned against using stainless steel. something about the chromium in s/s creating toxic byproducts.


Daren, I haven't read that before. I have heard that the addition of electrolytes like baking soda will taint the hydrogen/oxygen gas with CO2 but nothing about byproducts from chromium. I'm going to have see what more I can find out about that. Thanks.


link to follow...........

these two pages mention not using s/s:

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/andyspatch/rust.htm

http://www.rowand.net/Shop/Tools/Electrolysis.htm

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Re: Electroytic rust remove

Postby zelph » Thu Sep 29, 2011 8:20 pm

I had to bump this one up so we could be reminded how oops did his original small one.

Thanks oops for the great info. :D
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Re: Electroytic rust remove

Postby oops56 » Thu Sep 29, 2011 10:44 pm

ok here is one almost done just need a little wire brushing then
into the fire to season
ok she done its ready for the hot coals to season
they are done took all day just a small fire as the oil inside smoke good rub more on
if no rain sunday been soup
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