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Re: The StarLyte Alcohol Stove

Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 3:45 pm
by zelph
Notice in the previous post I give a quote from Stik's Blog saying he uses the Trail Designs "Sidewinder" with the StarLyte Burner/stove.

Trail Designs has now added the StarLyte as an option stove to their Sidewinder Kit. See what they say:

Re: The StarLyte Alcohol Stove

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 11:49 pm
by zelph
Chad Poindexter did a side by side comparison of the 12-10 stove/burner and the Modified StarLyte stove/burner. ... the-12-10/

The Starlyte & The 12-10

Re: The StarLyte Alcohol Stove

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 7:57 pm
by zelph
The Modified StarLyte burners are really selling well with the Caldera Cone Sidewinder kits. If your 12-10 stove is getting a little dogeared replace it with a regular StarLyte burner of A Modified one. ... th-lid.php


Re: The StarLyte Alcohol Stove

Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 6:36 pm
by zelph
Something new has been added to the StarLyte line of burners. This one is made as a dedicated burner for simmering.

This thread at inspired me to design it: ... d_id=82210

The one one the right is for simmering. Works well in the Caldera Cones for small pots.


You can purchase a burner for simmering at zelphs-stoveworks ... th-lid.php

Re: The StarLyte Alcohol Stove

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 8:19 pm
by zelph
Just a little experimenting. One side is for simmering and the other full bore for boiling.

Re: The StarLyte Alcohol Stove

Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 5:07 pm
by cruiser
I popped over here after you made a mention of this modification on another thread. I really like that you are constantly fiddling and trying to improve your designs ... but (without intending offense) this simmer-option doesn't seem as "elegant" as some of your solutions/evolutions. It is your fault ... you have set the bar too high.

I'm curious ... what happened to the simmer adjustable height stand or the simmer cat-can enclosure or my favorite ... the original detachable simmer-ring (pic attached)? I always thought if you could get the simmer-ring to seal on the sides of the stove with some manner of gasket or bead of silicone, and find a plug for the simmer-hole it could do double duty as the storage lid. (dual function = happy BPL'ers)

I have seen that the Origo marine stoves have a "settings dial". Any idea how that function is achieved?

Love that you are always tinkering and I am glad to hear this mod is working out for some folks.


Re: The StarLyte Alcohol Stove

Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 9:23 pm
by zelph
Good to see the photo of the original starLyte without the stainless steel mesh on top that protects the absorbing material from being eventually compressed from handling/stuffing into pots etc.

No offense taken ;) the bar is set high :mrgreen:

I myself was never one to want to "simmer" and didn't think there were enough people out there that wanted to simmer. I think I verbally offered to make the original simmer cap for the starLyte for those that wanted one. No one ever took me up on it.

Putting the Starlyte in a cut down fancey feast can works just fine to make it simmer.

The Origo simmer mechanism is a spring loaded cap that slides over the fuel canister something similar to the fondu pot heaters you see for cheap in thrift stores. The double burner marine stove I'm working on has a similar way of adjusting the flame. I'll take some photos of the stove tomorrow. I originally bought a single burner Origo just to see how it simmered :o it was in the name of stove advancement for backpackers. 8-)

Re: The StarLyte Alcohol Stove

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 2:29 pm
by zelph
I came acreoss these videos today and thought the information in them was interesting.

Re: The StarLyte Alcohol Stove

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 11:25 pm
by zelph
I also came a cross an update of a review made of the StarLyte at "Sticks blog" ... the-12-10/

Updated video


As seen in the comments below, a few long time Starlyte owners have shared their experiences with the Starlyte stoves when used with their Caldera Cones. As well, Garth had even spoke with Zelph and Dan Dunstan (a very involved Starlyte & Cone user) and said this:

I had some correspondence with Zelph and Dan Dunstan on the BPL forum about the starlyte with the Ti Tri. … Zelph recommended the standard Starlyte for a ECA 252.

As well, J Mole has been a long time user of the original Starlyte stove with his DIY cone for a MSR Kettle, and had this to say about the modified Starlyte stove:

…The modified Starlyte ( which zelph brought out this year?) is a slower beast ( due to the choking effect of the foil disc). I’ve tried it, but with the pots I use, could see little fuel efficiency over the original -just a longer boil time…

So, this was enough proof for me to decide to remove the ring and give it a try this morning since I needed some hot water for coffee anyway.


The lip/ring around the top of the stove was a bit loose on one side of my Starlyte stove already, so I simply pulled the top ring off. This completely exposed the inside of the Starlyte stove (as seen in the photo above) and allowed me to remove the choke ring without damaging anything. Then I simply spread a thin layer of JB Kwik Weld on the inside lip of the ring and pressed it back onto the stove, of course leaving the choke ring out. Now, I have an original Starlyte stove! As well, since the ring is still perfectly in tact, I can still carry it under the lid, and use it as a bit of a simmer ring if I choose to.

Also worth noting, even by adding a small amount of JB Weld to bond the top and bottom back together, the weight has not changed, even in terms of grams. Before hand, on my scales the weight would rock back and forth between 15 & 16 grams (including choke ring & lid). After removing the choke ring and applying the JB Weld, the weight still rocks back and forth between 15 & 16 grams, even when including the lid & choke ring back in.

So, I took the same cone & 1.3L Evernew cook pot that I used yesterday, back outside this morning. Again, I used 2 cups of “cold” tap water, and 1 oz of Denatured Alcohol in the stove. And as expected, the stove reacted quite different. The boil time dropped from 10 minutes, to about 6 minutes & 50 seconds! Strangely enough, this is the same boil time as the 12-10. As for burn out time, it burnt completely out around 11 minutes and 10 seconds, again, almost exactly like the 12-10 stove at 11 minutes & 20 seconds…

So, by removing the choke ring, I now get the same results as I would with the 12-10 stove, at least with the 1.3L cook pot & Sidewinder cone. This really narrows the comparisons between the 12-10 stove and the Starlyte stove down, for me at least. Considering they get the same results now, I will likely go with the Starlyte over the 12-10 simply because I like its ability to transport left over fuel in the stove, and that it can’t spill out if accidentally knocked over. As well, in smaller cook pots, the Starlyte stove will fit easier. The benefits that I can see with the 12-10 over the Starlyte is that it has a larger fuel capacity, and may be easier to light in colder, or windy situations. (However, I have not personally experienced any issues when lighting the Starlyte stove. It has always lit very easy for me.)

Anyway, thanks again to my readers. I appreciate the feedback such as this. Keep it up! :)

Thanks for stopping by.


Disclaimer: I won the Caldera Cone Sidewinder kit in a contest a while back on Trail Groove. The kit of course included the 12-10 stove. I paid for the Starlyte stove with my own monies. Despite how I came by either stove, the comments in this post are of my own opinion. I am not required to write about either stove.

Re: The StarLyte Alcohol Stove

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 9:46 pm
by zelph
The StarLyte stoves and burners are now available for International Ordering. :)