"Fancyfeast Stove" Updated Sept 12 2007

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"Fancyfeast Stove" Updated Sept 12 2007

Postby zelph » Wed Sep 12, 2007 10:29 pm

I used a Fancy Feast cat food can to make this stove. Potstand is built in. No primer pan or wick wrapped around it is needed. Lights easily in frigid temperatures

Weighs 24 grams/ 0.843 ounces, 2-1/2 inches in diameter, 2-1/4 inches tall

Fuel capacity is 3 ounces

Boils 2 cups of water in 6.5 min using 1/2 ounce denatured alcohol and continues to boil for an additional 2 min.

Boils 12 cups of water in 29 min Rolling Boil, steam pumpin the lid up, using 3 ounces of denatured. Continued to boil an additionl 5 min.

I used a 12 cup aluminum pot as shown in photo. Because the stove boiled for an additional 5 min, I think it will boil 16 cups(1 gallon) using 3 ounces of fuel. That's efficient.

The stove burns at a steady rate, no indication of fuel heating up and burning at a faster rate.

Stove accomodates the Heinekin pots nicely and works great with the bigger 12 cup capacity pots.

Will do further testing this weekend.

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I tried boiling 16 cups in the Heineken Keg(steel)

I was not able to boil using the 3 ounces of fuel. My wife kicked me out of the kitchen on the first try in the middle of the test (photos are inside)

Image the keg has one gallon of water in it, the stove has strength.


Image the flame pattern you see here remains the same throughout the 3 ounces of fuel.


Second try was outside under very breezy conditions without the best of windscreen. Flame was tossed around alot. At the end of 34 min and flame out, the water temp was 190 degrees.

Third attempt was using a larger aluminum pot. 3 ounces of fuel boiled the water in 34 min(soft boil) barely made it. Flame went out 15 sec. later.

Max fuel capacity for the stove is 3 ounces/ 90ml

Stove needs no primer pan and contains it's own potstand.

Weighs 24 grams and is very stable for it's size.
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Update: September 12, 2007
I tried 2 layers of aluminum screen door fabric instead of stainless steel. It does'nt work, heat distorts the mesh.

I tried the stainless steel mesh used for the aftermarket lantern globe replacement thingy. Works just fine. 5.00 bucks at Kmart.

I'm going to increase the height of the potstand material to narrow down the flame pattern. I'll keep you posted.

Let me know if anyone has made one of these.
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Re: "Fancyfeast Stove" Updated Sept 12 2007

Postby Chriffer » Thu Sep 20, 2007 12:02 pm

I was about to throw one of these stoves together, but failed on finding that mesh at the stores I checked. I found some stainless mesh that would work as a pot holder, but it is much holier. Is the mesh and it's ability to limit the air going into the burning zone an important part of how this stove functions?

I ripped apart this all stainless $10 or so bird feeder for parts. If it the mesh isn't going to work, I'm going to make a heavy duty stove out of the rest of the body.

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Re: "Fancyfeast Stove" Updated Sept 12 2007

Postby zelph » Thu Sep 20, 2007 12:25 pm

Chriffer wrote:I was about to throw one of these stoves together, but failed on finding that mesh at the stores I checked. I found some stainless mesh that would work as a pot holder, but it is much holier. Is the mesh and it's ability to limit the air going into the burning zone an important part of how this stove functions?

I ripped apart this all stainless $10 or so bird feeder for parts. If it the mesh isn't going to work, I'm going to make a heavy duty stove out of the rest of the body.


I hav'nt done any comparisons. My first guess is that it won't be the same burn rate. The larger holes will allow a faster burn, wider flame spread. I speculate the finer mesh is holding back the vapor from escaping at a fast rate.

I almost purchased a suposed ss collander/food drainer(fine mesh) yesterday to show what can be used as a source for material. While I was in the store I checked it with a magnet and it showed that it had a high magnet attraction so I passed on purchasing it.(price was $1.00)

Skids might be able to give us some insight on ss bird feeders as material for potstands.
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Re: "Fancyfeast Stove" Updated Sept 12 2007

Postby toddheyn » Thu Sep 20, 2007 1:29 pm

Just thought that I would post an update on locating the SS globe screen at K-Mart.

I have two K-Marts in my area. I went to the one that was closest and it was like looking through a GoodWill store but worse. Almost every aisle was in complete disarray. Needless to say their camping dept. was also the same way. No globes to be had. :(

I then went to the second store that is further away and they had about a dozen in stock. I picked up two of the globes. They turned out to be $3.00 a piece. :D

While I was at both stores I also looked for another grease pot or two, just in case, but they were both out of stock.
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Re: "Fancyfeast Stove" Updated Sept 12 2007

Postby toddheyn » Thu Sep 20, 2007 3:42 pm

To those that have used the SS globe material how did you go about breaking the "weld" used to join the two ends? Did you just use tin snips to cut along one side of the weld? Is there something better to use to cut the material? Just let me know.

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Re: "Fancyfeast Stove" Updated Sept 12 2007

Postby zelph » Thu Sep 20, 2007 5:16 pm

toddheyn wrote:Just thought that I would post an update on locating the SS globe screen at K-Mart.

I have two K-Marts in my area. I went to the one that was closest and it was like looking through a GoodWill store but worse. Almost every aisle was in complete disarray. Needless to say their camping dept. was also the same way. No globes to be had. :(

I then went to the second store that is further away and they had about a dozen in stock. I picked up two of the globes. They turned out to be $3.00 a piece. :D

While I was at both stores I also looked for another grease pot or two, just in case, but they were both out of stock.


Todd has "Sticktoitiveness" and was rewarded with a super bargain.

Todd, cut parallel to the welded seam to open the globe. Then cut in half length wise. Next cut that piece at 7 5/8 inches long if you are using the FancyFeast can. Use a 1" diameter something to help form a curve in the mesh to make it easier to put into the can. You want the mesh to expand and put pressure against the wall of the can so that you tip the can upsidedown and it won't fall out.

If you use a large diameter pot, lite the stove first, then put the pot on. If you use a Heineken pot, put the pot on first(push it gently onto the mesh so that it is firmly seated. When you lift up on the pot, the stove will want to stay attached to the bottom, just so you know. No surprises.

Cut the fiberglass wick 1/8 inch taller than heigth of can. Put the uncut edge facing up.


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Image the one on top is the one I use most often when making stoves. The one below it is the model M1. Use it for cutting longer lengths of material.

Image The one on the right is the one I use most often. All stoves makers will be much happier if they used this one. Made by wiss. Model M5
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Re: "Fancyfeast Stove" Updated Sept 12 2007

Postby toddheyn » Thu Sep 20, 2007 10:10 pm

Todd has "Sticktoitiveness" and was rewarded with a super bargain.


That may be true with the SS globe mesh but i have been pulling my hair out trying to find 2" tea light candles to build a turbo tea light stove. Seven stores so far and I have not found anything. The Internet has also not turned up any suppliers so far. Any thoughts? I am hoping that Skidsteer can hook me up with some from his source.
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Re: "Fancyfeast Stove" Updated Sept 12 2007

Postby Skidsteer » Thu Sep 20, 2007 11:02 pm

toddheyn wrote:
Todd has "Sticktoitiveness" and was rewarded with a super bargain.


That may be true with the SS globe mesh but i have been pulling my hair out trying to find 2" tea light candles to build a turbo tea light stove. Seven stores so far and I have not found anything. The Internet has also not turned up any suppliers so far. Any thoughts? I am hoping that Skidsteer can hook me up with some from his source.


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Re: "Fancyfeast Stove" Updated Sept 12 2007

Postby zelph » Fri Sep 21, 2007 12:41 pm

Kmart is hot!!! they have reduced the price of the globes. I suspect because they have not sold well. Locally they are remodeling the store so they have lots and lots of stuff reduced by 50% That equates to 1/2 of $3.00 = $1.50 for the globes. Thats why I bought all that were on the shelves. Go out and get em while they last.
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Re: "Fancyfeast Stove" Updated Sept 12 2007

Postby zelph » Mon Sep 24, 2007 4:00 pm

Here are some overlooked photos of the stove made with globe stainless steel.

Image under hieneken pot

Image under heiney pot

Image under Heiney pot

Image under Heiney pot

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by Chriffer on Thu Sep 20, 2007 12:02 pm

I was about to throw one of these stoves together, but failed on finding that mesh at the stores I checked. I found some stainless mesh that would work as a pot holder, but it is much holier. Is the mesh and it's ability to limit the air going into the burning zone an important part of how this stove functions?

I ripped apart this all stainless $10 or so bird feeder for parts. If it the mesh isn't going to work, I'm going to make a heavy duty stove out of the rest of the body.


We'll see if we can get Skids to remember a little about using a bird feeder material for making a potstand.
"Nothing Ventured Nothing Gained" stove store = http://www.woodgaz-stove.com/


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