SuperCat Afterburner

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Re: SuperCat Afterburner

Postby zelph » Sun Feb 06, 2011 10:39 pm

By all means work on your ideas. things are going fast and furious in your boil times. :D
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Re: SuperCat Afterburner

Postby zelph » Wed Feb 09, 2011 7:48 pm

I found some old photos in one of my albums of the good dependable fancey feast cans with steel mesh ppot support

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Re: SuperCat Afterburner

Postby Blue52 » Mon Feb 14, 2011 3:04 pm

I did a 3:10 using a variant of Hyper SC double burner. 45ml of fuel 2cups of 60degree F. water, ambient air temp 65degrees F, inside my garage using the Imusa 1.2, 4 1/2 '' diameter pot with a lid on.
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Flame pattern of double burner variant
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Simmer mode flame pattern same burner . Showing bottom burner jets covered.

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Re: SuperCat Afterburner

Postby zelph » Mon Feb 14, 2011 7:03 pm

The first photo looks like it's putting out enough he to get the 3:10 boil. For sure!!!! :D Lots of flame touching the stove to get that fuel heated up. :o
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Re: SuperCat Afterburner

Postby Blue52 » Wed Feb 16, 2011 12:28 pm

Sure does heat up. I have done several tests using two configured double burner designs. The shorter double burner only holds 50ml. max.I use 45ml to bring 2 cups of water to a boil between 2:50-3:15.using the Imusa 1.2q 4 1/2'' diameter pot. I wanted to know how long for 4 cups of water. So went to my taller Warp drive which holds 80ml of fuel and made it a double burner to test boil times of 4cups of water. Using the Imusa grease pot with a diameter of 4 7/8inch I can bring 4cups of water to a boil between 5:30 and 6:15 using 60ml of fuel. A new double burner to be built with the combined features of the two below to be even more efficient.

2cup boil test
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkLKfaJtOE4

4cup boil test
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RN40GCF7Elc

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Re: SuperCat Afterburner

Postby zelph » Wed Feb 16, 2011 2:56 pm

I'm having difficulties viewing the videos. Getting accustomed to my new laptop and need the GeekSquad :lol:

Be back later.
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Re: SuperCat Afterburner

Postby Ridgerunner » Wed Feb 16, 2011 5:45 pm

Blue52, can you achieve a 2 cup boil using just 3/4 oz. of fuel ?
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Re: SuperCat Afterburner

Postby Blue52 » Fri Feb 18, 2011 6:01 pm

With the short hyper cat double burner simmer ring on with 20ml I can achieve a rolling boil 5min 25 sec. all 5 test were within 5 sec (+) -) 60degree F. water using imusa 2.1 q 4 1/2 '' diameter pot.

Here's the break down with simmer ring on HYPERCAT Short double burner
15ml 4:47 no boil WATER TEMP UP TO 180degree f.
20ml 5:30 rolling boil end burn time 5:55
25ml 5:30 rolling boil EBT 7:30

Here's the break down without simmer ring on HYPERCAT short double burner

22.5ml 2:30 no boil WATER TEMP UP TO 170 degree F.
25ml 2:45 no boil WATER TEMP UP TO 185 F.
30ml 3:13 no boil WATER TEMP UP TO 200 F.
35ml rolling boil water at 3:10 EBT 3:45

Test was conducted using 2 cups of water 60degree F at sea level.

hyper cat short.jpg
The burner
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The inside of hypercat burner
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Simmer sleeve and burner
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Fully closed simmer ring
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Showing variable setting for simmer ring.

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Re: SuperCat Afterburner

Postby zelph » Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:29 pm

Here's the break down with simmer ring on HYPERCAT Short double burner

25ml 5:30 rolling boil EBT 7:30

Here's the break down without simmer ring on HYPERCAT short double burner

25ml 2:45 no boil WATER TEMP UP TO 185 F.


These are the only two that we can compare because both used the same amount of fuel.

Using a simmer ring proved to be more efficient.

We can easily see that without the simmer ring the stove burns in a radical fashion, bringing the water only up to 185 degrees and peters out at 2:45

That's like flooring my 409 standing still burning rubber, going nowhere and dumping a gallon of fuel in the process in 15 seconds flat :D Bad analogy :roll:
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Re: SuperCat Afterburner

Postby Blue52 » Sat Feb 19, 2011 12:20 pm

I like your analogy. Here's another way of looking at it . "Time to boil" fuel required to accelerate from 65mph to 140mph. stomping on the gas peddle to go faster requires more fuel. 35ml with simmer ring off rolling boil 3:10 vs 20ml 5:35. 75%more fuel 76% faster boil time , not spinning my wheels ;) I'm getting back almost what I put in for a faster boil time.

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