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"Jack" Stove

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 12:17 am
by JollyRogers
Here is a video, (and rather lengthy explanation), of my new "Jack" stove. Burn test videos will be following in the next few days.


Hope you like it' Let me know if you have any questions.

For more info you can keep up to date on my web site. (Still under construction, but updated several times a week).
http://www.2jollyrogers.com/camping-hik ... t-outdoors

Re: "Jack" Stove

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 12:30 am
by realityguy
Hmm..painted white and sure burns with a "light" colored flame.. :shock: ..must be a secret project... :roll:

:lol:

You know you weren't the first or last to do that.. ;)..join the club!

Re: "Jack" Stove

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 5:32 am
by JollyRogers
This site need a better sarcasm emote! Link fixed. :oops:

This is just my version of what hundreds if not thousands of people have done before. I'm not claiming to have re-invented the wheel or anything. I'm just paving the road so-to-speak.
I actually bought these bottles direct from the manufacturer for the purpose of making stoves. This stove was built to be used with a specific set of gear to do what lots of others have done before me. It is just designed to be more convenient.
Hopefully you will see what I mean as I post more videos. I just got a baking video done and once the editing/time lapse is done I'll load it to YouTube and link it here.

Baking a giant muffin/cake with 3oz of fuel and a burn time of almost 28 minutes. No refills, no special metal pans, no needles or fuel tubes, no origami with aluminum foil. Just a few tricks and a few items that are absolutely necessary to make it work. All part of a complete kit. That's really all I am doing different. Taking something that has been done to death and making it simpler and more versatile. ;)

Re: "Jack" Stove

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 11:55 am
by Ridgerunner
Yep, another WBS . I like your idea to run a tube across the chamber to pressurize the stove, hopefully enought to not need a primer pan and quicken the bloom. I have been toying with the same idea. Nice job on the stove and muffin bake. What is the total weight of the kitchen kit?

Re: "Jack" Stove

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 12:06 pm
by JollyRogers
Kitchen kit with 10oz of fuel is 25 oz.
This includes:
6 cup stainless pot - Kevlar Wrapped
4 cup plastic cup
1 cup plastic cup
plastic ring to join plastic cups
Light My Fire Spork
(2) 4oz fuel bottles (actually hold 5 oz each.)
Heine Pot
(2) silicone bands
1 oz measuring cup
Silicone pot lid

Still working on windscreen and priming issue. have some ideas for the windscreen so it can do double duty as a wood burner. Hopefully when all is said and done it will be right around 2lbs.

Here is the baking vid in case yo missed it in the other thread:

Re: "Jack" Stove

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 12:13 pm
by zelph
Nice explanation on it's manufacture. Why did you go with a smaller diameter? I have has a problem with centering my pot on small diameter stoves. Lost a pot or two of water in the process. I stayed with the beer bottle size and then went larger with the venom energy drink bottle.

I like baking with alcohol stoves. Meatloaf is my wifes favorite. It's the only time I can use my stoves in the house/kitchen :lol: She's mellowing ;)

Us bakers here have come up with some nice muffins/cakes/pudding and eggs, I like eggs!!! :mrgreen:

Re: "Jack" Stove

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 8:12 pm
by JollyRogers
Well, there is still the issue of centering the pot, unless you use the Heine pot. :roll: That was kind of the idea for the Jack stove. Jack of all trades. A stove people can still use with the Heine pot if they really want to stick with it.

I have an idea about modifying the pot with this cook set to resolve this. Essentially just braising 2 thin rings on the bottom of the pot. (Like coat hanger thin). One small inner ring to fit the Jack Stove and a larger ring closer to the edge for stability on flat surfaces. Again, still a work in progress.

I just cooked some eggs in my pot this morning. Over easy. ;)

Re: "Jack" Stove

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 10:52 pm
by ridebks
Beautiful stove!!! Why do you carry the Heini pot along with the stainless steal pot? I would think they do the same thing. Nice kit...a little too heavey and big for my taste, but everyone has different needs. I've never used a container to bake, or make eggs. I've always used a freezer bag. Nice twist!

Re: "Jack" Stove

Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 2:21 am
by JollyRogers
Again, this cook set will be all about versatility. The Heine pot is better for day trips and ultra-light packing. Sometimes the stainless pot is just too much. For extended trips you might want both to have an extra cook pot for multiple dishes. The Heine pot is good for soup/hot drinks and meanwhile you can still be baking or say cooking messier things in the stainless pot. It's not like the Heine pot weighs a lot.

Freezer bags are really jut better options for things like omelets and scrambled eggs. But you can make a nice poached/over easy or hard boiled eggs with a cook pot.

The Heine pot is most likely going to be an optional accessory for those that like the "coolness" of it or who want to go ultra-light.

Re: "Jack" Stove

Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 12:21 pm
by zelph
It's all personal preference. I've taken a liking to the Kmart grease pot. Holds 4 cups and easy to fit every thing inside it. 4 cups equals 2 for the freezer bag and 2 for a drink. It's more fuel efficient if you heat 4 cups at one time. Tests have proven that. The Fancee Feest, Cobalt, GoTo and Woodgaz stoves will do that easily.