T's stoves finds Carbon Felt makes a good wick

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T's stoves finds Carbon Felt makes a good wick

Postby DaddyMnM » Fri Jul 31, 2009 9:07 am

I have being reading a blog from Japan from our buddy T and he has been using a new wick material known as carbon felt. I am in Taiwan (visiting in-laws) and do not have access to my tools so I can not experiment with the new material, but it looks promising. I hear it is available at home depot as a small fire blanket to protect wall studs when using a torch on plumbing fittings. T does not have any videos and I can't read Japanese so I don't know much else. Here is a link to some stoves he has made. Letting you guys know so you can use it if desired. It will be at least one more week until I am back in the states . I will see if I can find a sample to test then.

http://alcanstove.exblog.jp/11533256/

An example of possible source of carbon felt:

http://www.inmainplumbingsupplies.com/en/Commercial-Residential-Water-Heater-Tank/residential/Hand-Tools/Plumbers-Soldering-Flame-Blanket.html

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Re: T's stoves finds Carbon Felt makes a good wick

Postby zelph » Fri Jul 31, 2009 10:02 am

Skidsteer came across that material at least a year ago and used it to make a stove or two and was pleased with the way it worked. I'll try to get over to whiteblaze.net to see if I can find the thread where he first used it. I also made a stove or two with it and will search out the info on it. The information gathered by Skidsteer has traveled the world :D
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Re: T's stoves finds Carbon Felt makes a good wick

Postby Cphobes » Fri Jul 31, 2009 10:45 am

DaddyMnM wrote:I have being reading a blog from Japan from our buddy T and he has been using a new wick material known as carbon felt. I am in Taiwan (visiting in-laws) and do not have access to my tools so I can not experiment with the new material, but it looks promising. I hear it is available at home depot as a small fire blanket to protect wall studs when using a torch on plumbing fittings. T does not have any videos and I can't read Japanese so I don't know much else. Here is a link to some stoves he has made. Letting you guys know so you can use it if desired. It will be at least one more week until I am back in the states . I will see if I can find a sample to test then.

http://alcanstove.exblog.jp/11533256/

An example of possible source of carbon felt:

http://www.inmainplumbingsupplies.com/en/Commercial-Residential-Water-Heater-Tank/residential/Hand-Tools/Plumbers-Soldering-Flame-Blanket.html


Wish I could read that blog but all I got was squares instead of any characters and there was very little english on it.

It must be something in the air as Tinny has been doing the same just recently and there appears at this point to be some significant advantages over regular fiber glass (though cost is a factor!).

He's selling it via his store in case people want to mess around with it and can't find it locally.

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Postby Cphobes » Fri Jul 31, 2009 10:46 am

zelph wrote:Skidsteer came across that material at least a year ago and used it to make a stove or two and was pleased with the way it worked. I'll try to get over to whiteblaze.net to see if I can find the thread where he first used it. I also made a stove or two with it and will search out the info on it. The information gathered by Skidsteer has traveled the world :D


I wonder why he didn't stick with it, at first glance it appears to have some good merits.

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Re: T's stoves finds Carbon Felt makes a good wick

Postby zelph » Fri Jul 31, 2009 4:17 pm

Here are some linkks to threads on whiteblaze.net Start from the top one and work your way down. The first one is when Skids first mentioned the material, February of 2007 I had been testing a plumbers cloth of a different brand and the color of it was white. There are links to each of the two different cloths. Both are used for the same purpose but vary greatly in how they perform in a stove. The black stuff works much better. Don't waste your time on the white stuff. The black stuff acts like cotton and works well in shallow stoves. It does not "wick" fuel in the virticle direction for taller stoves or inside double walled stoves.

Oops!!! the third link failed, you'll have to search the forum for it while your signed in. You have to sign in to see the photos that are stored on whiteblaze.

The use of the material goes back to February of 2007 by Skidsteer.

http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/showthr ... t=plumbers (wicking)

http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/showthr ... t=plumbers (Turbo Tea-Lite stove.)

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Re: T's stoves finds Carbon Felt makes a good wick

Postby Cphobes » Fri Jul 31, 2009 4:54 pm

zelph wrote:Here are some linkks to threads on whiteblaze.net Start from the top one and work your way down. The first one is when Skids first mentioned the material, February of 2007 I had been testing a plumbers cloth of a different brand and the color of it was white. There are links to each of the two different cloths. Both are used for the same purpose but vary greatly in how they perform in a stove. The black stuff works much better. Don't waste your time on the white stuff. The black stuff acts like cotton and works well in shallow stoves. It does not "wick" fuel in the virticle direction for taller stoves or inside double walled stoves.

Oops!!! the third link failed, you'll have to search the forum for it while your signed in. You have to sign in to see the photos that are stored on whiteblaze.

The use of the material goes back to February of 2007 by Skidsteer.

http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/showthr ... t=plumbers (wicking)

http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/showthr ... t=plumbers (Turbo Tea-Lite stove.)

Ion/StarLyte/Turbo Tea-Lite hybrid stove


Cool stuff! I'm having a hard time finding out what the difference is between Carbon Fiber Felt and Black plumbers cloth. So far they appear to be different materials. Plumber's cloth is aluminum oxide (sanding cloth), the information on Carbon Felt appears limited but no links or pages reference that it's aluminum oxide.

Thanks for the links, it's not really that important just was curious.

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Re: T's stoves finds Carbon Felt makes a good wick

Postby zelph » Fri Jul 31, 2009 5:07 pm

It must be something in the air as Tinny has been doing the same just recently and there appears at this point to be some significant advantages over regular fiber glass (though cost is a factor!).


Fiberglass cloth is far superior to plumbers cloth for wickability/capillary capabilities. As Skidsteer stated: the fibers do not seem to be parallel.

Skids sent me samples of his material and after inspection and testing it proved not to have good capillary action in transfer of fuel.

Large builders supply stores should have it in their plumbing departments.
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Postby Cphobes » Fri Jul 31, 2009 5:53 pm

zelph wrote:
It must be something in the air as Tinny has been doing the same just recently and there appears at this point to be some significant advantages over regular fiber glass (though cost is a factor!).


Fiberglass cloth is far superior to plumbers cloth for wickability/capillary capabilities. As Skidsteer stated: the fibers do not seem to be parallel.

Skids sent me samples of his material and after inspection and testing it proved not to have good capillary action in transfer of fuel.

Large builders supply stores should have it in their plumbing departments.


Yeah but I wonder how it relates to Carbon Fiber Felt vs. Fiberglass cloth.

It seems like both this person's blog "T" and Tinny both have products that use it. Though T's blog has some interesting stoves that I'd be curious to know more about. Just noticed that on the blog there's a "translate to English" option so I'll do some more reading...

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Re: T's stoves finds Carbon Felt makes a good wick

Postby zelph » Fri Jul 31, 2009 9:29 pm

Cphobes wrote:
zelph wrote:
It must be something in the air as Tinny has been doing the same just recently and there appears at this point to be some significant advantages over regular fiber glass (though cost is a factor!).


Fiberglass cloth is far superior to plumbers cloth for wickability/capillary capabilities. As Skidsteer stated: the fibers do not seem to be parallel.

Skids sent me samples of his material and after inspection and testing it proved not to have good capillary action in transfer of fuel.

Large builders supply stores should have it in their plumbing departments.


Yeah but I wonder how it relates to Carbon Fiber Felt vs. Fiberglass cloth.

It seems like both this person's blog "T" and Tinny both have products that use it. Though T's blog has some interesting stoves that I'd be curious to know more about. Just noticed that on the blog there's a "translate to English" option so I'll do some more reading...

-Stephen


Purchase some of the stuff Tinny sells and then purchase some fiberglass cloth and do some testing. Let us know how your testing goes. I'll have to watch T's videos to see the stoves.
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Re: T's stoves finds Carbon Felt makes a good wick

Postby irrationalsolutions » Fri Jul 31, 2009 11:07 pm

i agree. more testing is needed!
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